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(09-14-2017, 03:38 AM)Vidramon Wrote: [ -> ]It will be great ! I need only for WPA/WPA2 so I need to know what I can expect.

Who is the manufacturer and you have 2gb version right ?

Yes I have the 2GB version. This is the one I purchased, from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMI...B01M64G435

Again, not a reference design card, but I couldn't find a 1050 in that style. It's not a cracking card as primary purpose, so it does fine for me. Here are the benchmarks with Hashcat 3.6.0. These are from the download page, not the beta. If beta is requested, I can run those another time.

hashcat (v3.6.0) starting in benchmark mode...

* Device #1: WARNING! Kernel exec timeout is not disabled.
This may cause "CL_OUT_OF_RESOURCES" or related errors.
To disable the timeout, see: https://hashcat.net/q/timeoutpatch
OpenCL Platform #1: NVIDIA Corporation
======================================
* Device #1: GeForce GTX 1050, 512/2048 MB allocatable, 5MCU

Hashtype: MD4

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 8609.2 MH/s (77.78ms)

Hashtype: MD5

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 4958.0 MH/s (67.52ms)

Hashtype: Half MD5

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 3312.5 MH/s (50.45ms)

Hashtype: SHA1

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1887.2 MH/s (88.75ms)

Hashtype: SHA-256

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 720.2 MH/s (57.86ms)

Hashtype: SHA-384

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 231.0 MH/s (90.63ms)

Hashtype: SHA-512

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 248.7 MH/s (84.16ms)

Hashtype: SHA-3 (Keccak)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 203.3 MH/s (51.38ms)

Hashtype: SipHash

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 6667.9 MH/s (50.15ms)

Hashtype: Skip32 (PT = $salt, key = $pass)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1330.0 MH/s (25.08ms)

Hashtype: RIPEMD-160

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1103.4 MH/s (75.82ms)

Hashtype: Whirlpool

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 58445.4 kH/s (89.55ms)

Hashtype: GOST R 34.11-94

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 55378.4 kH/s (94.52ms)

Hashtype: GOST R 34.11-2012 (Streebog) 256-bit

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 11550.2 kH/s (224.14ms)

Hashtype: GOST R 34.11-2012 (Streebog) 512-bit

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 11543.8 kH/s (224.27ms)

Hashtype: DES (PT = $salt, key = $pass)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 4079.8 MH/s (81.95ms)

Hashtype: 3DES (PT = $salt, key = $pass)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 115.0 MH/s (91.00ms)

Hashtype: phpass, WordPress (MD5), phpBB3 (MD5), Joomla (MD5)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1592.5 kH/s (50.65ms)

Hashtype: scrypt

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 197.4 kH/s (57.72ms)

Hashtype: PBKDF2-HMAC-MD5

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1750.8 kH/s (60.99ms)

Hashtype: PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA1

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 775.2 kH/s (43.38ms)

Hashtype: PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA256

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 284.9 kH/s (62.19ms)

Hashtype: PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA512

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 106.2 kH/s (89.82ms)

Hashtype: Skype

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 3089.6 MH/s (54.15ms)

Hashtype: WPA/WPA2

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 93678 H/s (54.23ms)

Hashtype: IKE-PSK MD5

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 437.2 MH/s (95.77ms)

Hashtype: IKE-PSK SHA1

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 185.9 MH/s (56.15ms)

Hashtype: NetNTLMv1 / NetNTLMv1+ESS

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 5020.6 MH/s (66.68ms)

Hashtype: NetNTLMv2

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 398.8 MH/s (52.42ms)

Hashtype: IPMI2 RAKP HMAC-SHA1

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 390.6 MH/s (53.54ms)

Hashtype: Kerberos 5 AS-REQ Pre-Auth etype 23

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 64126.7 kH/s (81.55ms)

Hashtype: Kerberos 5 TGS-REP etype 23

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 66994.0 kH/s (78.11ms)

Hashtype: DNSSEC (NSEC3)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 771.1 MH/s (54.02ms)

Hashtype: PostgreSQL CRAM (MD5)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1536.4 MH/s (54.45ms)

Hashtype: MySQL CRAM (SHA1)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 539.1 MH/s (77.30ms)

Hashtype: SIP digest authentication (MD5)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 800.8 MH/s (52.03ms)

Hashtype: SMF (Simple Machines Forum) > v1.1

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1575.2 MH/s (53.10ms)

Hashtype: vBulletin < v3.8.5

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1550.2 MH/s (53.96ms)

Hashtype: vBulletin >= v3.8.5

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1086.2 MH/s (77.07ms)

Hashtype: IPB2+ (Invision Power Board), MyBB 1.2+

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1132.6 MH/s (73.90ms)

Hashtype: WBB3 (Woltlab Burning Board)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 302.7 MH/s (69.13ms)

Hashtype: OpenCart

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 481.1 MH/s (86.62ms)

Hashtype: Joomla < 2.5.18

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 4946.5 MH/s (67.68ms)

Hashtype: PHPS

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1565.2 MH/s (53.43ms)

Hashtype: Drupal7

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 13120 H/s (48.43ms)

Hashtype: osCommerce, xt:Commerce

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 3060.6 MH/s (54.61ms)

Hashtype: PrestaShop

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1905.5 MH/s (87.89ms)

Hashtype: Django (SHA-1)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1581.2 MH/s (52.89ms)

Hashtype: Django (PBKDF2-SHA256)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 14269 H/s (73.07ms)

Hashtype: MediaWiki B type

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1484.4 MH/s (56.30ms)

Hashtype: Redmine

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 640.8 MH/s (65.04ms)

Hashtype: PunBB

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 634.9 MH/s (65.65ms)

Hashtype: PostgreSQL

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 4919.8 MH/s (68.05ms)

Hashtype: MSSQL (2000)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1926.7 MH/s (86.86ms)

Hashtype: MSSQL (2005)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1927.5 MH/s (86.87ms)

Hashtype: MSSQL (2012, 2014)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 235.8 MH/s (88.79ms)

Hashtype: MySQL323

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 11028.6 MH/s (60.69ms)

Hashtype: MySQL4.1/MySQL5

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 859.1 MH/s (48.47ms)

Hashtype: Oracle H: Type (Oracle 7+)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 225.7 MH/s (92.77ms)

Hashtype: Oracle S: Type (Oracle 11+)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1875.5 MH/s (89.30ms)

Hashtype: Oracle T: Type (Oracle 12+)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 25438 H/s (50.05ms)

Hashtype: Sybase ASE

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 64751.2 kH/s (80.76ms)

Hashtype: Episerver 6.x < .NET 4

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1581.0 MH/s (52.90ms)

Hashtype: Episerver 6.x >= .NET 4

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 622.4 MH/s (66.97ms)

Hashtype: Apache $apr1$ MD5, md5apr1, MD5 (APR)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 2390.5 kH/s (67.21ms)

Hashtype: ColdFusion 10+

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 412.1 MH/s (50.70ms)

Hashtype: hMailServer

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 623.0 MH/s (66.91ms)

Hashtype: nsldap, SHA-1(Base64), Netscape LDAP SHA

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1872.6 MH/s (89.44ms)

Hashtype: nsldaps, SSHA-1(Base64), Netscape LDAP SSHA

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1862.4 MH/s (89.93ms)

Hashtype: SSHA-256(Base64), LDAP {SSHA256}

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 715.7 MH/s (58.21ms)

Hashtype: SSHA-512(Base64), LDAP {SSHA512}

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 247.2 MH/s (84.67ms)

Hashtype: LM

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 4414.3 MH/s (75.70ms)

Hashtype: NTLM

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 8556.5 MH/s (78.27ms)

Hashtype: Domain Cached Credentials (DCC), MS Cache

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 2487.3 MH/s (67.24ms)

Hashtype: Domain Cached Credentials 2 (DCC2), MS Cache 2

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 76961 H/s (51.91ms)

Hashtype: DPAPI masterkey file v1 and v2

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 16442 H/s (52.81ms)

Hashtype: MS-AzureSync PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA256

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 2495.5 kH/s (54.47ms)

Hashtype: descrypt, DES (Unix), Traditional DES

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 227.5 MH/s (91.79ms)

Hashtype: BSDi Crypt, Extended DES

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 349.2 kH/s (77.52ms)

Hashtype: md5crypt, MD5 (Unix), Cisco-IOS $1$ (MD5)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 2429.1 kH/s (66.12ms)

Hashtype: bcrypt $2*$, Blowfish (Unix)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 2698 H/s (46.07ms)

Hashtype: sha256crypt $5$, SHA256 (Unix)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 90326 H/s (89.69ms)

Hashtype: sha512crypt $6$, SHA512 (Unix)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 38417 H/s (53.62ms)

Hashtype: OSX v10.4, OSX v10.5, OSX v10.6

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1572.6 MH/s (53.18ms)

Hashtype: OSX v10.7

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 216.2 MH/s (48.29ms)

Hashtype: OSX v10.8+ (PBKDF2-SHA512)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 3000 H/s (49.62ms)

Hashtype: AIX {smd5}

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 2404.0 kH/s (66.86ms)

Hashtype: AIX {ssha1}

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 10871.6 kH/s (53.00ms)

Hashtype: AIX {ssha256}

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 4001.7 kH/s (76.71ms)

Hashtype: AIX {ssha512}

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 1554.3 kH/s (49.51ms)

Hashtype: Cisco-PIX MD5

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 3681.2 MH/s (91.00ms)

Hashtype: Cisco-ASA MD5

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 3750.2 MH/s (89.32ms)

Hashtype: Cisco-IOS type 4 (SHA256)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 715.9 MH/s (58.19ms)

Hashtype: Cisco-IOS $8$ (PBKDF2-SHA256)

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 14255 H/s (73.14ms)

Hashtype: Cisco-IOS $9$ (scrypt)

clGetEventProfilingInfo(): CL_OUT_OF_RESOURCES

Speed.Dev.#1.....: 0 H/s (664.13ms)

Hashtype: Juniper NetScreen/SSG (ScreenOS)

clCreateContext(): CL_OUT_OF_RESOURCES

Started: Tue Sep 12 18:11:05 2017
Stopped: Tue Sep 12 18:20:54 2017
Hm, this is not bad :
''Hashtype: WPA/WPA2
Speed.Dev.#1.....: 93678 H/s (54.23ms)''

It is faster than 5870. Yes there is a lot version of this card as I can see and I also can find reference card for now.

Tell me what is the temperature situation, can it handle good ? I need to work about 2 hours without interruption.
I haven't tested temps on long term runs. I don't expect the temperatures to be too bad though, given the low power draw and small form factor of the card. As long as you have good air flow in your case, and dont have the card pushed directly next to another card, I think temps should be fine. Give it plenty of room to breathe. How long that OEM fan runs before quitting is another story. OEM (non reference) style cards tend to have the fans fail quickly when running 24/7 at near 100% rpms. I wouldn't think it too hard to replace with a better quality fan for very little money though. It would be fairly easy to remove the fan shroud and fan, and just attach a regular case fan to cool the card. If I remember I can run a test job this weekend and let it go for half hour or so and report back with temperature results.

I think the 1050 would be your best bet to stay at or near the price you are looking for at this time. If you can upgrade just a little more cost, a 1050Ti should be a decent boost in speed.
Ti is more than my budget.
So far I can find only a new cards and lowest prices are :

Gigabyte GV-N1050D5-2GD 133$
Gigabyte GV-N1050OC-2GL 139$
Asus PH-GTX1050-2G 139$
All other are more expensive than that.
This is also above my budget but at least card is new and I have warranty. I don't need something much faster than old 5870 ( it would not be bad, but don't have money for that ), so all about 5870 performances are acceptable, a bit less or a bit more it is the same.
I know that this less expensive models are the worst and with one fan, but no money no choice.

p.s. Your's Evga super clocked model is 172$.
I would rule out the second Gigabyte model since it is for low profile, so smaller cooler. Temps should not be an issue with these cards.
In which market are you shopping? U.S.?
You are in right, not pay attention to that.

EU.
Vidramon: which EU country? There are some differences in availability of different models, pricing, VAT etc., even though it's generally easy to get all stuff you need from the neighbouring countries Smile
I found in my town a man that selling a used Sapphire Vapor-X R9 270X OC 2gb, with following comment :

''When cleaning the card, hoover pull harder left fan, and from then it is turning a little bit asymmetrically.
Right after that, the graphic card is start to crashing under heavy load, more precisely when I start and play some demanding video games. In normal work it is without any problem and when is fully loaded it crashing system.
I don't know is the temperature problem because of left fan that I pull harder when cleaning a card or something else, I don't have time and knowledge to fool around with that so it is on sell. Outside is like new.''

So I contact him and ask can he run some GPU-z full load test on it or something else that we can see what can be problem ( I suppose if it is working in normal conditions of load without problem that problem is temperature on CPU, VRAM or VRM when is on full load and that's why problems arise ), he told me that card is 6 months outside the computer case, and that he can give me card on test.

So we agree that I come to his place tomorrow to take card on test. Considering that he agreed on this, he is tell the truth, that he is a fraud he would not give me a card on test.
This can be a fine shopping below the price if the card was turn out to be OK.

I plan to give to it full load test on GPU-Z and run some GTA V that I will download tonight to see how it will behave.
If  you have some suggestions plase give them.
You need to stress test the card under compute workloads, not gaming workloads. GTA-V will not stress the GPU anywhere near like md5stress or MD4 single hash brute force will.
Yes, that is clear to me, but obvious I first must find what is problem and what suddenly caused that card not work properly in full loads, so I will first try with games and Gpuz test to find out how the card is behave. If it's okay then I will run hashcat on it, if not I must try to find a problem and try to solve it.

But if the card has stopped working properly after clening I hope that the trouble is not big, and hope it can be solved since it will be great buy low price and it will do a job for me. I will update with new info and temperatures tomorrow.
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